jazz conspiracy
Sep. 20th, 2001 04:40 amhyperandum: i just want to hear elven jones and rashied ali playing across from each other...
AteOlf: that'd be sweet..
hyperandum: yeah, that's why i need to find that album..
AteOlf: hrm...it's prob'ly not Meditations, though it could be...i'd guess it'd be right around when he switched over from the two drummers...
hyperandum: i think he played with both groups onand off..
AteOlf: yea, but everything i've seen w/ Elvin Jones has been earlier than w/ Rashied Ali...
AteOlf: i could easily be mistaken though...
hyperandum: well during the last 3 years coltrane was recording like 13 times a year...
AteOlf: yea...
hyperandum: 1965 was a turning point in the life of John Coltrane. It was at this point that he crossed
the line into the free jazz arena that he had been approaching since the early '60s. Besides
his landmark ASCENSION, no better album illustrates this than the awe-inspiring
MEDITATIONS. Coltrane's regular quartet with McCoy Tyner (piano), Jimmy Garrison
(bass) and Elvin Jones (drums) is expanded here with second drummer Rashied Ali (who
would assume Jones' spot after this album) and saxophonist Pharoah Sanders.
AteOlf: cool
hyperandum: :-D
AteOlf: though Jones played w/ Coletrane after Meditations...
hyperandum: well what i gathered from te impulse liner notes, the quartet never really stopped playing together...
hyperandum: its just he picked up playing more free jazz stuff without them...
hyperandum: there's an album of similar stuff called first meditations without ali or sanders...
AteOlf: hrm...
AteOlf: i need all his 65-67 stuff...
hyperandum: you know everytime we say rashied ali we probably set off some cia anti-terrorism monitor...
AteOlf: hah
hyperandum: >:o
AteOlf: OI!
AteOlf: well now the cia are gonna get a rough lesson in late-period Coletrane that's for sure!
hyperandum: indeed... let the free jazz revolution begin...
AteOlf: power to the prophets of rage
hyperandum: O:-)
hyperandum: whoa!
hyperandum: and i want to get expressions too...
AteOlf: oh?
AteOlf: i have that one, it fucking rules...
hyperandum: its alice and john coltrane with rashied ali...
AteOlf: this one song, his sax playing sounds like a synth...
hyperandum: cool...
AteOlf: they also play on Live at the Village Vanguard Again!
AteOlf: which also rules...
hyperandum: there are loads of live stuff..
AteOlf: i know...i need all that too...:-)
AteOlf: by the time i'm 60 i'll have like 5 cd towers dedicated to just Coletrane's last 3 years...it'll be cool...
hyperandum: cool..
AteOlf: that'd be sweet..
hyperandum: yeah, that's why i need to find that album..
AteOlf: hrm...it's prob'ly not Meditations, though it could be...i'd guess it'd be right around when he switched over from the two drummers...
hyperandum: i think he played with both groups onand off..
AteOlf: yea, but everything i've seen w/ Elvin Jones has been earlier than w/ Rashied Ali...
AteOlf: i could easily be mistaken though...
hyperandum: well during the last 3 years coltrane was recording like 13 times a year...
AteOlf: yea...
hyperandum: 1965 was a turning point in the life of John Coltrane. It was at this point that he crossed
the line into the free jazz arena that he had been approaching since the early '60s. Besides
his landmark ASCENSION, no better album illustrates this than the awe-inspiring
MEDITATIONS. Coltrane's regular quartet with McCoy Tyner (piano), Jimmy Garrison
(bass) and Elvin Jones (drums) is expanded here with second drummer Rashied Ali (who
would assume Jones' spot after this album) and saxophonist Pharoah Sanders.
AteOlf: cool
hyperandum: :-D
AteOlf: though Jones played w/ Coletrane after Meditations...
hyperandum: well what i gathered from te impulse liner notes, the quartet never really stopped playing together...
hyperandum: its just he picked up playing more free jazz stuff without them...
hyperandum: there's an album of similar stuff called first meditations without ali or sanders...
AteOlf: hrm...
AteOlf: i need all his 65-67 stuff...
hyperandum: you know everytime we say rashied ali we probably set off some cia anti-terrorism monitor...
AteOlf: hah
hyperandum: >:o
AteOlf: OI!
AteOlf: well now the cia are gonna get a rough lesson in late-period Coletrane that's for sure!
hyperandum: indeed... let the free jazz revolution begin...
AteOlf: power to the prophets of rage
hyperandum: O:-)
hyperandum: whoa!
hyperandum: and i want to get expressions too...
AteOlf: oh?
AteOlf: i have that one, it fucking rules...
hyperandum: its alice and john coltrane with rashied ali...
AteOlf: this one song, his sax playing sounds like a synth...
hyperandum: cool...
AteOlf: they also play on Live at the Village Vanguard Again!
AteOlf: which also rules...
hyperandum: there are loads of live stuff..
AteOlf: i know...i need all that too...:-)
AteOlf: by the time i'm 60 i'll have like 5 cd towers dedicated to just Coletrane's last 3 years...it'll be cool...
hyperandum: cool..
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Date: 2001-09-20 07:49 pm (UTC)Re: !
Date: 2001-09-20 10:35 pm (UTC)